Imagining the Green City with Wayne Hsiung


Wayne Hsiung ran for mayor of Berkeley, CA in 2020 to try and make the Green City a reality. Wayne is an animal activist, and, since 2013, the founder of animal activism organization Direct Action Everywhere.

In this full conversation, we talk about:

  • Wayne's Green District idea for Berkeley

  • Why we need economies of scale in clean meat production

  • Cooperation between him and the elected Berkeley mayor

  • Why his animal rights activism is a cover for his climate activism

  • Why everybody should read Animal Liberation and watching Finding Nemo